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Things to Consider in Collecting Decorative Limoges Porcelain
by Keith and Thomas Waterbrook-Clyde

Many people ask us, “What kinds of things to you consider when you purchase Limoges porcelain?” As experienced collectors, we consider many different things before we buy a piece of porcelain to add to our collection. Some of the things we consider include:

1) What is the subject matter of the decoration?  2) How old is the piece?  3) How was the porcelain decorated? — hand-painting, transfers or a mix of hand-painting and transfers? 4) Is there an artist’s signature, and if so, who is the artist?  5) What is the quality of the decoration and overall artistic merit? 6) Was the piece decorated in France or the U.S.; and if in the U.S., was it decorated by a professional artist or studio? 7) What is the size of the piece? 8) Is the blank itself unusual or scarce? 9) Is the piece scarce because the company didn’t manufacture many pieces or because the artist didn’t paint or sculpture many pieces? 10) If it is a set of dinnerware, for example, is the set complete or close to complete? 11) What is the overall physical condition of the piece?
  There is no one factor that necessarily predominates when selecting pieces for a personal collection; rather, it is usually a combination of factors. The more knowledgeable the collector, the more likely it is that a number of these considerations come into play. We will discuss each of these considerations, which will provide the collector with helpful information in making decisions to purchase Limoges porcelain and whether particular pieces are likely to increase in value in the future.

Quality of Decoration
    One of the most difficult areas to define is artistic value and quality of decoration. Because a piece is decorated in France does not mean it is well executed. Nor for that matter does a piece decorated by a professional US decorating studio mean it is well done.  There are many pieces, for example, that were decorated in Limoges for the New York import firm, George Borgfeldt (bearing the Coronet mark) that are mediocre to bad; on the other hand, almost all of the pieces decorated by the Paris studio, Le Tallec, are exquisitely decorated. On balance, however, there are more poorly decorated pieces by amateur US painters than poorly decorated pieces done by professional artists and studios in France and the U.S.

    What we ourselves look for in decorative objects are pieces that are entirely hand-painted, since many of these pieces have variability and nuances of color, shading and design that are not found in pieces that are decorated with transfers. We are also partial to pieces that have the Limoges trademark of heavily gilded borders and accents, although it is important that the gold accents contribute to the theme of the painting and not detract from it. In some cases, pieces are so heavily gilded that they diminish the subject being depicted. We also look for pieces where the painting acknowledges in some way the specific details of the blank itself and where, for example, ridges and designs in the porcelain are incorporated into the painting and overall decoration.

     The U.S. decorating company, Pairpoint in Massachusetts, decorated Limoges porcelain in the 1880s, and their decorators were mindful of the shape and design of the porcelain in the decoration of their hand-painted pieces. Pairpoint pieces command high prices, and their Limoges porcelain bears the Pairpoint Limoges mark.

    In dinnerware, particularly, transfers are indiscriminately placed over the various accents in the porcelain itself, so that there is no harmony between the blank and the decoration. The Paris decorating studio, Le Tallec (1930 to the present), on the other hand, is an example of all hand-painted pieces that are perfectly coordinated with the porcelain itself.  Le Tallec decorated Limoges porcelain commands extremely high prices, with one four-piece place setting of dinnerware ranging from $2,000-$3,000 and even higher with some of the older pieces. The company is presently owned by Tiffany & Co, and pieces for Tiffany are marked, Tiffany & Co. Private Stock.

   In painted pieces which include people, it is important that the individuals are attired in clothing of the period with features that are well proportioned and with facial expressions that convey a feeling or mood. It is also important that the background contributes to the portrait or figure in the painting. Antoine Soustre, a decorator c. 1880s, was one of Limoges’ best painters of people and is able to create a mood that is expressed not only by the individual but by the background as well. Many of the pieces painted and signed by A. Soustre carry the Théodore Haviland mark.

   Unfortunately, there are many instances by other artists of figural decorations where the figures are mistakenly off center on the blank or the figures are proportionately too small for the size of the blank. In other cases, the bodies of some figures or their arms or legs are misshapen.

   In pieces involving more than one individual, we look for some interaction between the people, either in terms of their expression or activity.  In some of the paintings, the emotions being expressed between two people are very real or they are meaningfully engaged in some joint activity.

    As with paintings of people, we expect paintings of animals, birds and fish that are intended to be lifelike to be well proportioned. When there are multiple birds set in a scene, for example, the painting should have depth, where birds and objects in the foreground look closer and are larger than those in the background. The setting is also important. Some settings are quite detailed, containing water, building, flowers and other objects. Many of the pieces for serving seafood are elaborately decorated and quite stunning, where the artist has used an abundance of bright colors with heavy use of gold accents, while maintaining a sense of the reality of the subject. In some of the paintings, the birds appear to be actually alive and ready to move off the porcelain at the slightest sense of danger; in others, the birds appear to be actually flying or moving. Movement and the sense of danger or heightened awareness are also depicted in paintings of other animals as well. Two of the best Limoges artists in painting these subjects are Dubois and A. Broussillon.

    One of the other common decorating themes of Limoges porcelain is flowers.  The majority of the dinnerware sets are decorated with floral transfers and gold highlights. Although most of the dinnerware patterns are floral transfers in subdued colors, sometimes with gold accents, others are brightly colored with lavish use of gold borders and accents. Flowers are also the predominant themes on dresser sets.  While decorative pieces have more varied subjects, floral designs also make up a large proportion of these items as well, especially pieces painted by American artists. With decorative pieces, the flowers are more often boldly painted in bright colors, with lavish use of gilt. The more striking paintings are those where the flowers appear fresh and lifelike. With jardinieres, cachepots and vases, the floral themes should encompass the entire piece, and not just one angle or view. In some of the more well executed pieces, the floral design may show some progression as it wraps around a vase or jardiniere; where, for example, sprigs of flowers may be in different stages of opening or where a variety of colors are contrasted and fused. There are also some unusual paintings, particularly on plates, where floral patterns are used as foregrounds to frame background scenes, giving the piece a sense of depth and dimension Some painters, using pastels and soft colors have been able to give floral patterns a wispy effect, where the flowers and foliage are almost floating on the porcelain. Again, the Limoges artist, A. Broussillon, has painted some beautiful floral pieces.

   We need to point out that there are many other decorative themes included in Limoges porcelain. Popular subjects also include different fruits, with grapes being especially popular with American painters; cherubs; patterns reflecting Asian influences; art deco designs; and interesting abstract uses of shapes and colors.

  Finally, we would like to emphasize the beauty of many pieces of Limoges porcelain that were never decorated, whether intentionally or not. The Pouyat Company, in the latter half of the 19th century, manufactured some of the most stunning white porcelain blanks, known for their whiteness and translucency. There are many figurines that were produced as undecorated porcelain blanks that are superb examples of the art deco period. Some of these pieces are not identified with a particular sculptor while others may be inscribed, such as pieces done by Joe Descomps. Also, the sculptor, L. Savine, who worked for the Théodore Haviland company, produced many exquisite figurines of women.

Purpose of Pieces
    There are two major categories for the use or purpose of porcelain pieces, and these two categories to some extent overlap—decorative and/or functional.  Some porcelain pieces are clearly decorative, such as chargers, plaques and hinged boxes and, to some extent, vases, jardinieres and cachepots.  Other pieces are clearly part of functional sets—dinnerware, dresser items and specialized sets for beverages, game and seafood.

     While the decorative items are more likely to be lavishly decorated and entirely hand-painted, this is not always the case. On the other hand, dinnerware is more likely to be decorated with transfers, although there are many examples of dinnerware sets that incorporate both transfers and hand enameling or are entirely hand-painted. Special purpose sets for the dressing table and for serving game and seafood are often hand-painted and lavishly decorated, and the individual pieces are often art objects by themselves.

     In general, the value of decorative items or art objects are based upon the quality of decoration and the size, while the value of functional sets are determined by the completeness of the entire set. For example, a dinnerware set for eight is proportionately more valuable than a dinnerware set for six.  Complete game and seafood sets, although quite rare, usually include 12 dinner plates, 1 platter, 1 gravy boat and saucer and, sometimes, two relish/sauce dishes. Not conforming to the general rule of completeness in determining value are oyster plates, which singly or in multiples of the same pattern, are highly sought after and command high prices.

Subject of Themes
    The decorating themes and styles of Limoges porcelain have varied over time. The very earliest Limoges themes were gold work, flowers and people. Over the last 100 years, in order of most to least prevalent, are flowers, especially roses; fruit, including many grape and berry themes; game birds, fish and shellfish; human figures and portraits; and, finally, natural scenic themes and animals.

     Although the popularity of particular themes has changed over time, themes currently very popular with collectors are flowers, especially roses, and human figures and portraits. The animal rights movement has to some extent diminished the popularity of game animals and hunting scenes; however, many pieces with these themes are extremely well decorated.

Decorating Method and Style
    Decorating method is also an important factor in determining value.  In general, completely hand-painted pieces are more desirable than pieces that are decorated with transfers or pieces that are predominately transfers with hand-painted highlights.  Most of the decorative art objects are entirely hand-painted, except for sculptured figurines. An artist’s signature also adds value, especially if the piece was decorated by one of the better Limoges artists, such as A. Soustre, Dubois, Ted Alfred Broussillon and Luc, to name a few. The majority of dinner- ware is decorated with transfers, since transfers are applied under the glaze and are therefore more durable. A large number of older dinnerware sets, though, are hand-painted with gold accents.

    Hand-painted items are not in and of themselves more valuable, however.  There are many entirely hand-painted items, even by well known artists and studios, that are done poorly; while there are many beautiful pieces that are decorated solely with transfers.

    Additionally, many undecorated pieces are more highly valued than pieces that decorated. This occurs in many sculptured items that were never intended to be painted, in pieces where the porcelain itself is very white and highly translucent, in pieces where the shape of the porcelain blank itself is a work of art, and finally in pieces where white blanks are scarce. Some of the most beautiful pieces of Limoges porcelain are white blanks that have only been glazed or left in bisque (no glaze).

    Especially beginning with the 20th century, the “typical” style which many collectors associate with Limoges are pieces which are hand-painted in deep and vivid colors with heavily gilded accents. The decorative pieces, which are particularly highly sought after, are those with thick gold borders on chargers and plaques and gold painted handles, rims and bases on vases, cachepots, punch bowls or jardinieres.  This style was widely copied by amateur U.S. painters; and while many of these pieces do not represent fine art, they are nevertheless very popular with collectors.

Decorating Origin
   A lot of attention has been paid to the decorating origin of Limoges porcelain.  Some Limoges companies were only decorating studios; others only manufacturers; still others only exporters — while some were all three.  Often, however, a company started out in just one of the above three areas and then later expanded to include additional functions in either the manufacturing or decorating process.

    Much of the very early Limoges porcelain was not marked, either to identify the manufacturer or the decorating studio. Thus, many of these pieces are mistakenly called Old Paris; and, in fact, it is very difficult  to distinguish between Old Paris and much of the early unmarked Limoges porcelain. Even when the manufactur- ers began to routinely mark their porcelain, beginning in 1891 when the McKinley Tariff Law in the U.S. required imports to indicate the country of origin, the decorating company was not always indicated with a overglaze mark. There are many pieces of early Limoges porcelain that were clearly professionally decorated in France, yet have no decorating mark. The experienced collector can usually determine just by looking at a piece whether it was professionally decorated in Limoges, regardless of whether there is a decorating mark.  Also, a large number of Limoges blanks were decorated in the U.S. by professional decorating studios, such as Pickard and Stouffer (these are usually marked), and by individual professional artists as well as amateurs.

     So, where does this leave the collector? Our opinion is that each piece should be judged on its own artistic merit, regardless of the source of decoration. Nevertheless, in general, pieces that are professionally decorated by a Limoges company have higher values than pieces that are decorated by amateur painters in the U.S. The exceptions are large vases, jardinieres and punch bowls. These larger items still command high prices.

Age
  The first piece of hard-paste Limoges porcelain dates from 1771. Since much of the Limoges porcelain during the first 75 years, especially from 1880-1850, is unmarked and since most of these pieces are in museums and private collections, most collectors will only find pieces from around 1855 to the present. For those collectors who are interested in the history of Limoges porcelain, age is an important factor in determining value.  For others, the quality of decoration plays a more predominate role. We, ourselves, are very interested in the early pieces because they often represent a different decorating style than pieces from the 1880s onward.  With increasing age, porcelain tends to get chipped and cracked and the paint, especially if it is over the glaze, begins to show wear—all of which tend to decrease somewhat the value of the piece. Most collectors are willing to tolerate some deterioration from wear, such as fading and some disap- pearance of paint, especially the gold decoration; but most collectors do not want pieces that are chipped and cracked. Only for very old pieces, which of course are quite rare, will collectors pay premium prices for porcelain that is physically damaged.  After all, there are many old pieces that have suffered damage that are presently in museums.

Scarcity and Condition
     Relative scarcity of particular pieces is also a factor in determining values, especially for the more advanced collector.  This is especially true for blanks that have unusual shapes and that were produced in relatively small numbers.

    Many of the larger pieces of Limoges porcelain fall into this category as well. Relatively scarce blanks include, for example, jardinieres, vases with unusual shapes and handles, large chargers and cachepots, glove boxes from dresser sets, large oval plaques with intricately shaped borders, letter boxes, chamber pots with water pitchers and basins.  Additionally, there are several Limoges companies that produced a relatively small amount of porcelain or decorated relatively few pieces, and companies that did not have a large export business to the U.S. Pieces from all of these companies tend to command higher prices because few of their works are in circulation.  Examples of companies falling into these categories include S. Maas, Oscar Gutherz, François Alluaud, Henri Ardant and Barny & Rigoni.

Summary
      There are a number of factors affecting the value and desirability of any piece of Limoges porcelain.  Different collectors, depending upon their objectives and tastes, will place different values on each of these factors. The general popularity of particular themes also changes over time. Nevertheless, porcelain pieces that are well decorated will hold and increase their value over time. There is no substitute for the quality of decoration. Collectors who have eclectic tastes and a broad appreciation of beauty will find many superb pieces of Limoges porcelain and will not have to be concerned with what is popular at the moment. Also, there are still many fine examples of Limoges porcelain that are still available for collectors who concentrate on pieces from the 19th century.

About the authors: This article was written by Keith and Thomas Waterbrook-Clyde, authors of the new book for collectors, The Decorative Art of Limoges Porcelain and Boxes available from Schiffer, 1999. You can email the authors at TClyde37@aol.com or email Schiffer Publishing at Schifferbk@aol.com

 

Limoges Marks, but Makers Unknown

158 decoration mark159 unknown160 similar to Sazerat161 unknown

163 red, unknown164 green porcelain mark170 unknown172 unknown173 unknown

175 similar to Levy176 bottom illegible177 recent178 red decoration mark

180 unknown decoration mark181 unknown porcelain mark182 c1920s green decoration mark183 unknown190 red decoration mark, no info

191 green porcelain mark, no info192 no info193 ?after 1891, green or red decoration mark196 similar to bernardaud197 no info

211 no info, green decoration mark212 no info, red decoration mark213 no info, green porcelain mark216 no info, similar to Paroutaud218 no info, ?paroutaud?

219 ?Limoges? no info225 no info179 no info, decoration mark?174 decoration mark?208 no info

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